The second season of Natasha Lyonne’s acclaimed time traveling show, Russian Doll, premieres April 20. It achieves what most second seasons don’t—it got better, richer, more expansive. What’s also impressive is that the series is only one more plank in a much larger barn that the actor, director and now showrunner is building. Lyonne is using her forties to redefine her relationship to public opinion. Her vision of the ideal future looks remarkably close to her present: a family of collaborators driven solely by the desire to help each other realize the depths of their creative potential. Here, in conversation with her comedy soulmate and fellow creative Greta Lee, Lyonne unpacks why personal stakes make Russian Doll special, and what the smallest doll at the show’s heart teases about her larger hopes for Animal Pictures, her production company with Maya Rudolph and Danielle Renfrew Behrens.

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